February 28th, 2019 | 58 mins 34 secs
building, creating, farming, podcasting, productivity, soccer, woodworking, writing
In previous careers Nathan has been a designer, author, and blogger. After learning the power of email marketing he gave up a successful blogging career to build ConvertKit. Outside of work Nathan spends his time playing soccer, woodworking, and chasing after his two little boys.
December 6th, 2018 | 54 mins 44 secs
climbing, journaling, productivity, public speaking, singing
Ben is the host the Art of Product Podcast, created Refactoring Rails, and co-created Upcase, Trailmix, and Briefs. Currently, he's building Tuple, a tool for remote pair programming.